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  • That's right!
  • I think that shows an intensification of guilt--before, he only felt a little bit guilty, but after external shame was imposed, he felt more guilty!
  • Now let's look at a counter example in the Dominican Republic. What happened there?
  • European men would go on vacation and use these prostitutes.
  • Then they would promise to help provide for these women or get the out of the country, but they'd just abandon them!
  • NO! They'd just go back to Europe and no one would pressure them to fulfill their promises!
  • Were there external consequences for them?
  • Hmmm...nothing changed this time though, because no external consequences were EVER imposed...
  • If the men had felt guilty, they would have continued supporting the women.
  • Since no shame or external consequences were issued, the men barely felt any guilt.
  • That's right! They may have felt a little guilty, but not as guilty as if someone had shamed them.
  • So how would this apply in pre-contact Hawaii*?
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