yaous a guy loss somthing and gave up hope of ever finding it
hafgar it is owner liss.
ballos if somthing has you are not aloud to take it and keep it.
raba. is is like hafgar
abaya. it still has balos.
title: machlochis habaya raba
Csúszik: 2
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parot maforzaros whold seem to suport raba.not nesesarly because were taiking about a threshing room which is coniderd medas.
egolo davla. since the mishna sais you can keep egola devla that would meen it supports rabas aponion the gamar anwers no because since it,s heavy it,s medas not solo medas.
maymasay motar be lecet. when do we know were aloud to take it when the guy whith the cane comes.
maot.your aloud to take it like raba sais but realy the persons always chaecking
loshona shel argoman. the mishna sais if you find you can keep it but the onwer dosint know if he lost it so it supports rabas opinion that it,s hafger.
if you found money in a shool it says your aloud to keep it which would seem to support rabas opinion.
Csúszik: 3
a bunch of dates on ground and you see the tree over it so you know where it came from and your aloud to take it and it would seem to support raba then the gamra sais no it doesint becuse he is always goig to be checking if the dates are going to fall down
the minshna sais spred out fruit your aloud to keep but the owner doesint know it fell.
the gamara says if you steal somthing and give it to someone else then the person who you give it to is not allowed to keep it but realy he is aloud to keep becuse the guy probably gave up hope already but in some cases you are not aloud to keep it becuse he might already know about it.
a log goes down a river to my naighbores yard he is not aloud to keep it if he knows didint give up hope so it whouid seem to support abya the gamara says no it doesint necesely like abaya becuse he might go back for it.
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