In yeshiva in Israel, I was taught many things but the thing that got to me the most was working or learning full time I learned from Rambam,hilchot v' yovel 13:12-13 " shevet Levi learned torah all the time. They were the ones sititing down all day learning Torah so just like shevet Levi anybody who to learn full time they can choose this lifestyle and it is like there shevet Lev. This what changed my decision on going to college and working in the future. I'm just scared how my dad will react and scared if he going to turn this into a great debate
I know dad I have a lot of priorities but I think at this point in my life Torah is my number 1 priority.
DAD I DONT WANT TO GO TO NYU I WANT TO JOIN A KOLLEL
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I'm very thrilled and happy you love Torah and Judaism so much but the world is very different from how it used to be and you need to know your priorities
wow Yehuda you are really starting to worry me but here is what Yehuda, Unless you can prove to me why learning Torah all day is good for you I will not let you go
But dad I have changed as a person spiritually and physically. I think it would be best for me to do what I love and I have more proof and arguments on why I should learn all day.
Yehuda, Yehuda slow down there you will need to provide for your family one day and by learning Torah all day won't help. Yehuda in the gemra you're teaching me I saw rabbi Abaye statement which said" many have followed Rabbi Yishmael successfully but many who followed Rabbi Shimon bar yochai were not. All I want is the best for you and following rabbi Shimon bar yocia isn't the right decision because many have failed.
Yehuda studied in Israel for the year and fell in love with Torah so much that he decided that he didn't want to go NYU and instead wanted to join a Kollel in his home town of Englewood and learn Torah for the rest of his life not work Click to Edit Description
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wow, dad really like the opinion you just taught me about splitting my day into 2 parts one for learning and others for working. Dad, I really love this opinion and if I'm going to ever work I would go by this but you still haven't won me over on going to college Torah is going to be my life forever.
Yehuda finally gets home and was greeted by his father at the front door. Yehuda's father was so happy to see him but also saw a change in Yehuda. Yehuda and his father started taking and learning some macechet Shabbat 31A. As they were learning Yehuda stop his father to show him what Rava said about when a person is being brought to judgment and one of those 4 is'DID YOU DESIGNATE TIMES FOR TORAH' after learning these sources Yehuda started telling his father how fell in love with Torah and wanted to make it lifestyle.
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Dad the statement that I brought up from pirkei Avot 3;5 proves why me learning Torah for the rest of my life will totally be ok and I already proved to you so much witch should convince you already or at least make your decision unsure on whether I can learn all-day
Yehuda starts having a conversation with his father about the situation and how to prove to his father that learning all day is ok. So Yehuda starts by opening up gemra brachot and shows his father a statement from Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai witch says " if one works, the Torah will he neglected, but if anyone follows the Torah, he will merit that others do work for him". Yehuda explains this statement to his father by explaining that if he learns all day G-d will take care of him and others would do work for him.
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Yehuda it has been 3 hours and we were going back and forth with good sources proving each other wrong. Although I tried proving to you why you shouldn't learn all day. At the end of the day, I'm your father and want you to be happy and for you to do what you love more than anything and wouldn't want to force you into something you don't want to do. So Yehuda I am giving you permission to learn whenever and forever. Keep making me proud and growing as a Torah scholar.
so Yehuda's father really starts to disagree with him because he thinks Yehuda is taking this to far and wants Yehuda to realize that this real-life and in life you need to work in order to put food on the table. Yehudah father starts to explain to him what that means by quoting Pirkei Avot 3:17 " if there is no flour, there is no Torah; if there is no Torah, there is no flour" Meaning that if you don't work then you cant learn because you won't be able to provide for yourself. After his father taught Yehuda this Yehudah still felt that he is obligated to learn all day but he started to question himself slightly.
Yehuda let me teach you one more thing that rabbi Yishmael said " Divide your time part of the day for working and part of it learning Torah" Yehuda this shows you can still do what you love most and provide for your family.
Yehuda and his father countine to argue about this topic while at the same time Yehuda is conflicted because he starting to consider his father's opinion. Then while being conflicted Yehuda was reading perki Avot 3;5 and came across " one who accepts upon himself the yoke of Torah is exempt from the yoke of government duties and the yoke of worldly cars" Yehuda starts explaining that as long as someone expects upon themselves to learn all day they will be exempt from duties.
Yehuda there is on the factor you are not putting in to play. In Pirkei Avot 2;2 it states " Ultimately, all Torah study that is not accompanied by work is destined to cease and cause sin..." meaning that if you are going to learn Torah all day and don't have a job nor not putting in your all towards Torah studies then it will eventually lead to sin
Yehuda and his father came to the conclusion after there great debate on Torah learning. Yehuda's father put up a good fight brought in great statements to prove he right. Although his father tried his hardest. it still didn't change Yehuda's mind and Yehuda father ends up allowing Yehuda to not go to college but instead join Kollel
wow, dad thank you for making me the happiest kid on the planet now. I promise I won't let you down and will be the best Torah scholar I can be. no matter the day or the time I will always be up to learning with you and hope you can see in the near future that I made the right decision. I love you so much, dad!