KYT: This is where the her story came from. AG: Yes. And I was like, "I don't have time for it". I know that your shit is fucked up too, but can we just talk about black people? He's talking about how he basically came up with Black Lives Matter. I was pissed.
A local artist tried taking credit for the BLM movement idea that Alicia and Patrisse began online. Alicia recalls being at the bar, pissed off, and called Patrisse explaining her anger. Patrisse told her, "You need to write this down. People need to hear why it's not okay. And then we figure out what we're going to do with these folks because that's not okay". Following this, herstory, was written. Why it's wrong to take Black queer women's work as your own.
AG: I would add something about how our movements can't only be composed of the people who are most disenfranchised. Our movements also have to be composed of people from across the class spectrum and people who also have power. KYT: Part of the core politics, it seems to me, of Black feminism is anti capitalism; that ran through. AG: Yeah. Yeah.
Alicia was in the thought process of figuring out how to approach people with her ideas without being shut out and ignored. Trying to figure out a what brings people together even though no one shares the same life. "We need a new vision for Black power that doesn't throw anyone away, and that doesn't replicate the same shit that we have right now, which isn't working for us, even when we think it does".
KYT: But do you think that is possible - to learn how to govern in this context? AG: I think we have to. Even if it's at the smallest level. We don't know what it looks like to run cities in ways that actually improve Black people's lives.
AG: And I think we're in that place where we can talk as much shit about how fucked up things are, but when folks don't know anything else they either don't participate or they make the wrong choice because it's safer than not knowing. It's too early to say where people are going to end up. And if it wasn't important for Black folks to be in that, they wouldn't try to take it from us.