When Spider Grandmother got out of her own reed, she noticed that Sotuknang was not there to speak with her and the good people. She was beginning to think he had forgot about them. The people had asked birds to fly to see new land, but they couldn't find anything. Sotuknang finally appeared to Spider Grandmother said that she should trust her inner wisdom.
Spider Grandmother showed the people how to make boats out of their reeds. They began their journey to find the Fourth World.
Spider Grandmother and the people landed on a perfect piece of land. Spider Grandmother said that the land was too good for them and they must keep going.